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Adult Childen Estranged from your parents, Please come forward!
February 23, 2014
2:20 pm
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I have a long story that goes back to when I was 11, I am 45 now. But I have not seen or spoken to my mother and stepfather in over 17 years...long story tho, and don't want to put it 'out there'. long story short, mother gave me up for a very controlling rich man when I was young...

February 20, 2014
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I am so relieved I found forum. A lot of the stories give me comfort that I am not alone in my rejection and pain. I struggled with my parents until about six months ago I decided they were hating me and tormenting me to no avail. I was a pretty good kid, shy in nature and introverted. I got teased and bullied a lot at school. I also got teased and bullied a lot by my parents. My mom said she did not have a very big romance with my dad, but knew she wanted to be a housewife and have a family so she married him. He is extremely misogynistic and aggressive. He belted us when we were little, disciplined for nothing that was a big deal, and I lived in fear. My mother was his servant. She pampered and pleased him trying to not make him go off the wall crazy. She was so concerned with being hush about everything to the neighborhood she would criticize and belittle us into complying with her ideals of how to "present perfectly". My dad exhibited a lot of inappropriate behavior including walking around in his underwear and no shirt when I had a birthday party in grade one. My mother forgot to get me at school once and I stayed alone crying and afraid when I was five until a teacher found me. We were usually a disappointment to both of them, and there was often "hell to pay" I grew up thinking of suicide when I was 14 years old. When I was 15 my dad attacked us one night, and I wanted to run away. I was so young, and started shutting down. I started using drugs. I started getting more abuse from them that I rebelled. I was the baddest apple in the world to them, bad they became very self loathing and adapted a hard done by attitude. They started gossiping to the neighborhood that they have a hard time with us kids, and how saintly they are. I got so fed up I left at 19 to Europe. I struggled working, and travelling with my confidence shot. I still wondered about how good of a person I was. I took it hard all the treatment and I took it to my heart traveling the world. I gave up on myself and threw myself into the adult entertainment industry where a whole new set of problems arose. I went to the mental health center where I was misdiagnosed with Bipolar Diisorder, and anxiety and overmedicated to try to "fix' me as it was wrong to be me, and I believed it. When my parents found out about this diagnosis they used to put me down, and to call me "sick". Any time I questioned their behavior they put me down and went and talked to psychiatrists about me to try to get me institutionalized. The were torturing me, my mind body and soul. I was too blind to not stop talking to them, as I was still convinced I was a worthless idiot.

 My boyfriend died suddenly at a very young age and I was devastated. I was alone and went to them for support. They were not supportive. They did not let me grieve, calling me mentally ill. My mom got her friend over to sit in a lazy boy and yell at me for being such a failure, and said I need to go to rehab. I do not do drugs. I decided I was going to end my life, as I was convinced I was horrible, and nothing. I had also lost a very loving person that I admired, and wanted to get back to him. I was in so much pain I could not be. I almost died, but was found after three days when I was in renal failure from lithium overdose. My parents came to the hospital upset with me. They harassed me for a year putting me in mental institutions, and torturing me. I wrote in my diary that my dad had hurt me, and I was upset with them. He found it, and him my mom and the friend came to the institution and made me write a letter that this didn't happen and apologize to my dad. I wanted to die. I wanted my love back to help me, but he was gone. I realized one day it was time to fight. I came off of all the medications that were not helping me and I withdrew much to the dismay of the psychiatrist that was in charge of "straightening me up". It was hell. I thought I was going to die. No assistance was given and it was torture. They kicked me out of the institution, and on to the streets. My parents didn't let me stay with them because they "thought I would kill myself". It had not dawned on them that they might be contributing to this.

 

I won though. I got better. I got strong with all of the strength that I had left in me I rebuilt me life. My mom continued to harass me and criticize me for some time. She acted like I was dire, and a weak being in need of her help to "fix me up and make me better" while all the while not looking in the mirror. I moved away from them, and am in trauma therapy. I disowned them, and the pain is still there. I will never give them an inch again.

I'm hurt. I'm very confused. The fact the main message sent from these two idiots was that I am a horrible person and they are hard done by having me as a daughter has inflicted me. I have post traumatic stress disorder. They will never understand why their finger pointing and dissatisfaction of me is hurtful. They want things from me. My mother said "we are really disappointed in you because we expect more from you"

I really do not understand how they can be that naïve and not know they are doing something wrong. I have so much pain waking up every night feeling tormented. Sometimes I wonder what this life is for. It took me a long time to realize it was them that were causing me so many issues.

 

I am 31 years old, and so angry with myself for not leaving them earlier. I caused myself years of problems by reaching out because I still have a heart, and I still get lonely. In their minds it's everyone else that is to blame. I am not a good daughter, worthy of being locked away for no crimes committed and they are saintly.

I wonder if I will ever feel safe again. I wonder if I will ever feel okay in the world about myself. I wonder if I will have confidence again, and feel good enough without the worries and the second guessing. I hope I can. I have it in me. I am intelligent and got straight a's in the first two years of highschool before I rebelled. I have realized they will never be reasonable.

 

I hope the anguish will subside after another year away from them. I already feel better health wise and I am trying to respect myself. I pray the one that loved me is watching over me and knows the truth that I have a heart.

February 16, 2014
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Hi Kelly,

Thank you for sharing learnings from your own situation. I appreciate the advice.

It's like you are grieving something that never existed and that's hard to come to terms with initially but once you accept that it (the great parent-daughter relationship you thought you had or hoped you had) was just a figment of your imagination, no different than finding out that the sky is actually blue despite having been told your whole life that it's orange, I think it is a grief that can be managed.

You are so right about needing to find out what makes me happy in life and then making time and effort to do that--I have no idea what my interests are! Was it the same for you? I know what I am good at but I don't know what really interests me - regardless of whether I am good or bad at it. It will take some time to get this one figured out but I have my whole life.

Thank you again for listening and giving me some feedback on my own personal situation. I so appreciate it! Next steps for me include some therapy as well - specifically I want to make sure I am not currently or becoming or ever become a narcissistic parent like mine were. I am hyper-aware of my actions so I think I am already doing a pretty good job but it doesn't always come naturally to say the right things to my children. I find I often have to reflect in my head before I speak or act. I need some re-training so that it comes more naturally.  

Wishing you the best on your journey Kelly.

February 15, 2014
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It has taken me the last 6/7 yrs to realise my relTionship with my Parents is unhealthy.  I am the eldest child to my dad and mum, both of whom have been emotioally abusive since i was born.

 

today i have made the decision to remove them from my life for good. I did not want to lose dad but he glosses over her abuse and agrees with her all the time, and i can no longer tolerate the pain this gives me. They make me feel im always in the wrong, im always to blame and that its me with the problem, and i cant physically take it anymore. 

 

Tonight i lost and smashed up my house after hearing my dad tell my husband "not to believe the shit i come out with" and "she overreacts constantly", it was the final straw. I completely flipped with 37 yrs of pent up anger. Dad has tried the guilt trip, the "do you habe any idea how upset your mum is" etc etc, to whih i replied "yes im glad shes upset". 

 

Im scared and feel very sorry for myself but i feel relieved too. I have done nothing wrong, these people are supposed to support me not knock me down all time. I know its going to be hatd but i have to cut all ties for my own sanity.

 

good luck to you all too. 

February 15, 2014
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Hey Axems,

As someone who has battled with similar estrangement for 3+ years.. and really, really wallowed in guilt over it.. I am proud to say I have learned this:

 

- you could actually spend the rest of your life grieving and trying to be responsible over what to do about the relationship, if you allowed yourself to

 

- you have to decide when your grief has *mostly* finished and then absolutely let go (this is one of those things that doesn't come with a manual, but usually productive grief is a very physical thing) 

 

- parent-child relationships are built by the parents, not by the children.  if your parents did not build a workable relationship with you from birth, it is not likely that YOU will be able to go back and create a healthy one now (it just doesn't work backwards like that so don't kill yourself trying!)

 

- figure out what your personal objections are to having a good life, and then write them down and throw them off a balcony or burn them.  every day in the shower, tell the light in your heart "im moving on and having a good life", tell your cells to tell all your other cells that you are moving on and having a good life as well.

 

- go get some hobbies and resume having fun!  

 

- you will not healthily be "present" to play a role in your family's life down the road unless you truly give up the grief and go on to live a good life, because your energy will still be low and gloomy, so dont worry about the future

February 13, 2014
4:26 pm
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I was raised to expect the silent treatment for crimes that I had apparently committed but that were unbeknownst to me. I was raised to fear what others think of me and my family, to be private and always suspicious of others' intentions. I was raised to do what my parents wanted even when it wasn't what was best for me, things like staying with a controlling boyfriend, living where they wanted me to live, doing what they wanted me to do, etc. and when I had the audacity to do what I thought was best for me, well you can probably guess...silent treatment. When I was four years old my mother told me that she would leave and never come back if I didn't eat my meatloaf and when I didn't eat it she did actually get in the car and leave. Of course she came back an hour or so later but I was traumatized.

Now it's my turn. Not for the silent treatment or some petty act designed to achieve control, but for some much needed space and peace and quiet from their noise. I live some 3,000 miles away from them so seeing them isn't possible except for planned visits, which won't be happening any time soon if ever again. I have chosen not to return the two phone calls she made since the estrangement started in December 2013 (~6 weeks ago), both of which included a poor me message in a poor me voice that ended in "call me back if you want to" without any recognition, concern, or query of what may have caused me to stop communicating. It's me who ended it, not her, and certainly not all of her selfish actions throughout the years. I think I might be swayed if she could do the one thing I know she can't: admit that she hurt me and that she was wrong for doing so.

The past ~6 weeks have been peaceful but I'm still dealing with the feelings that go along with a recent estrangement (guilt, doubt, hope) and I find myself often wondering how she could give up on me so quickly. Being a mother of two I can say undoubtedly that there is nothing that would stop me from loving my children and from trying to reach them. But then I'm not a narcissistic borderline personality, I'm just the survivor of narcissistic parents.

Thank you for this forum. It helps to vent a little. :)

February 5, 2014
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I have not been in contact with my parents in 19 years. I do not agree with their methods or beliefs. My parents are estranged from their parents also. So they really understand estrangement.  The cycle of abuse stops here, I moved across the continent to have proper distance.  I feel safe.

February 4, 2014
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Wow...I did not realise how many adult children are estranged from their parents and thank you for sharing your stories.

I have become estranged from my father and stepmother 3 weeks ago for the second time.  The last time was for 12 months after he called my sons (aged about 8 and 10?).  This estrangement caused me alot of stress and probably helped with ill health that required surgery.  I finally rang him up and went to see him.  We had an argument and got past it.

 

This time I had some things happening with one of my sons (he had to have surgery plus some other 'stuff') and his wife projected her stuff with her son onto me (I kept telling her to stop and she finally did) and then my father proceeded to give me his 'opinion' (insert 'his truth") and would not stop so I hung up on him.  Due to something I said on facebook he rang me a week later and excaimed "there is no need for that!' - what a hypocrite.  From there the conversation turned nasty - he keeps saying nasty things about my son - had to hand up again and unfriended them on facebook.

 

I am ok with this estrangement this time....I have too much going on to have the drama that they cause.  I know he will never apologise or do anything else towards reconcilliation.

February 3, 2014
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my name is mccart i never believe in spell casting, until when i was was tempted to try it. i and my husband have been having a lot of problem living together, he will always not make me happy because he have fallen in love with another lady outside our relationship, i tried my best to make sure that my husband leave this woman but the more i talk to him  the more he makes me fell sad, so my marriage is now leading to divorce because he no longer gives me attention. so with all this pain and agony, i decided to contact this spell caster to see if things can work out between me and my husband again. this spell caster who was a woman told me that my  husband is really under a great spell that he have been charm by some magic, so she told me that she was going to make all things normal back. she did the spell on my husband and after 5 days my husband changed completely he even apologize with the way he treated me that he was not him self, i really thank this woman her name is Dr Aluta she have bring back my husband back to me i want you all to contact her who are having any problem related to marriage issue and relationship problem she will solve it for you. her email is traditionalspellhospital@gmail.com, she is a woman and she is great. wish you good time.

February 1, 2014
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I became estranged from my parents about 3 years ago when I was 17 after I had begun suffering mental health issues and was in a violent relationship that caused the relationship between myself and my parents to break. 

They didn't want to believe the concept that their own child has mental health issues, putting blame down to my diet, lack of sleep and exercise. That was until my doctor and psychiatrist pointed out to them that what teenager has a good diet, sleep and exercise to which they were made silent by but still to this day refuse to believe it after countless talks with different psychiatrists, mental health doctors/ nurses and others.They didn't want to except that they raised a child with this issue as it disgraced their reputation. They were also told part of the problem was they saw me as a seven year old that and that they held me back which caused me to fight more to gain some freedom. They accepted this (only at the time). They could not see, no matter how many times I showed them proof that I was treated differently to that of my siblings (which caused me to quote "Black sheep") They would generally take me trying to show and explain to them my thoughts and feelings as a disgrace, yelling and screaming at me of "How dare I" and name callings that put me so low in myself as I felt I had no one to turn too about these feelings. Surely as I parent that is what you try and do to sort it out.

I moved out, got myself a flat and on to income support while I finished A-levels and carried on my part time job. When times got rough I tried to contact my parents for help and support but it was usually met with the phone being hung up. It was my best friend that looked after me at that point.

After some time I moved myself across after a serious episode and at that point I started to get better. I was coming out of the darkness and was looking back on a person that was not me. I couldn't have acted the way I did intentionally and cannot describe to this day to anyone how it feels suffering with that condition because its so hard too.

However, the light at the end of the tunnel showed hope as I found out I could make it to University! I was overjoyed as this had always been my dream, to go to University to learn how to help others. The side note was I was classed as international and I was estranged so no student loans could be given.

I could have applied for estranged student bursary but  my social worker felt that my parents could pay if pushed - yes they did and our relationship began to build again to a happier and better one than before.

I felt so happy to have my parents back because I generally didn't want to be estranged from them, I loved them but I found it so hard to live my life when I was constantly worried on how to keep them happy and how to please them. 

 

First two years went by smoothly. I was coming home to my parents for the holidays and nothing was better than the relationship we built again. I couldn't have been more happier. Then, as the months went by they started to turn cold again, I walked in a room and their faces would be of thunder. I didn't know if it was something I did or something that went on in their personal life but I put so much effort into trying to keep them happy but also trying to keep myself happy too. This usually resulted in getting screamed at or silent treatment but they wouldn't explain it to me. Though I would hear them talking to my siblings with joy. 

 

I then entered a new relationship with a guy who I had known for a while but not realised how amazing he was to me. Compared to the last abusing relationships I had that my parents watched me go through I thought they would welcome him with open arms. He has been nothing but polite and courteous  to them and everytime he came to my house they gave him the cold shoulder and were hardly talkative to him and when they were it was very fake. They have done this with my best friend as well. Even when I said I was staying at his their faces would be a pure disgust and they would storm out. But everytime I asked what was wrong I would receive no answer. I thought it was because they didn't want to trust another guy but it's gone on too long and the effort my boyfriend has made with them has exhausted him and now i get embarrassed about how they treat him and now me.

 

So it came to a point where I asked them a favor as I made a mistake with getting home to see my boyfriend AND THEM (to which thy spat out it was only for him. Though when I left last time to go back to Uni I told my mum I would see HER soon) I aked them to borrow money to get back that would be repayed to them. Naturally they talked to me like I was stupid, ranting and raving about what I did (which was a simple mistake of mixed up dates) eventually I got sick of the abuse and stuck up for myself. Out of all their children I was the only one that got themselves a job for summer while at Uni and they seem to have forgotten that, I was using my hard earned money to get home but because of a mistake i need a little help. Yet when my sibling rings for extra money to see his girlfriend it gets handed to him (to which I was present for but if I dared say that to my parents they would no undoubtedly yell at me). I got called a disgrace, brat, disgusting child etc etc. 

I wont dent they have done a lot for me by paying for me to go to uni (living costs and travel home for holidays which is what they did for other siblings) but when I asked for help I did not expect parents to ever talk to their child like that EVER!

So from now on I do think estrangement was the best idea so I have to look into how i can still attend uni now that all ties have been cut with my parents. I'm sick of trying to please them and getting abuse, sick of asking for help and getting abuse and for all the things I have done going unnoticed.

 

Sometimes people just aren't meant to get a long, no matter if they are blood.  The sad thing about it is I know i'm going to miss them.

January 31, 2014
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Jess said
The fact is, when we grow up and have kids of our own; we start to examine how we want to raise our kids. I was forced to take a long hard look at my childhood when I had my baby. Instead of looking through the eyes of a scared and insecure child, I was looking at my past as a parent. i was heart broken and had to face the harsh reality that I was definitely emotionally abbused by my mother.

She was a drug user and big alcoholic. We never really got the attention that her boyfriends or the drugs got, and when we reached out and exclaimed our distaste for the alcohol/drug abuse; we were scolded. We were told that our father was a horrible person, we were punished if she thought we weren't showing her enough love. She was disabled and used that as an ongoing excuse to abuse her drugs, but in reality, her want for the drink and pills or needle would prove to always outweigh our worth.

I know that she was/is very sick. And I do believe that she loves us, but can't face her demons. However, as an adult and a parent, I can't be HER victim any longer. I have chosen to not have contact with her. But her birthday is approaching and I feel like a child again. Very nervous and shamed. (She would become very mean and angry if we didn't acknowledge Mother's Day Birthdays etc. even as very young children. manipulation is her craft) In truth, I have never felt secure in myself but with years of therapy I now know better. 

I don't expect her to change the past, but try and make the future better. When she refused rehab or any therapy that's when I broke away.. She can live her life now, but I wouldn't condone her lifestyle.

I would see small glimpses of the person she could be, big hearted, smart and funny. That's how I'll choose to remember her. Being estranged to me doesn't mean that you don't care for them. (After all, they are our parents) But it means that I will love you from afar and give myself a chance to love ME. To let myself be happy and free to be the parent that I always wanted.

I'll always have that small child in me reaching out for her mommy; that won't change I'm sure. All I can do is acknowledge that and be the best mommy I can be.

All my love to you guys out there for being so very brave. Sometimes the hardest choice to make is choosing to be happy and healthy. I hope all of you find your corner happiness, you are WORTH it!

Dear Jess - your words resonated with me on such an incredible level that I shed a tear.  While our situations are slightly different, they were similar enough to make me take pause when I read it.  I am in the middle of a fight with my mother because she refuses to take any responsibility for any of her past actions.   Thank YOU for your bravery and I honor the child you once were. 

January 30, 2014
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Jess,

Thank you for putting that so eloquently.  I'm still haunted by the wonderful times I had with my parents and the beauty that I saw in them at times when I was a child.  It's such a contrast to the reality of now when I see what they've done to themselves. I'm the only one holding onto those happy times, my parents have suffered enough blackouts and high stress living that they don't remember and would just get angry at me and attack should I bring them up.  Let us find peace and solace in living an honest, good life.  Stay connected to the earth, community, spirituality, human connection. there is no rule that we need to crash and burn too like our families. 

January 28, 2014
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The fact is, when we grow up and have kids of our own; we start to examine how we want to raise our kids. I was forced to take a long hard look at my childhood when I had my baby. Instead of looking through the eyes of a scared and insecure child, I was looking at my past as a parent. i was heart broken and had to face the harsh reality that I was definitely emotionally abbused by my mother.

She was a drug user and big alcoholic. We never really got the attention that her boyfriends or the drugs got, and when we reached out and exclaimed our distaste for the alcohol/drug abuse; we were scolded. We were told that our father was a horrible person, we were punished if she thought we weren't showing her enough love. She was disabled and used that as an ongoing excuse to abuse her drugs, but in reality, her want for the drink and pills or needle would prove to always outweigh our worth.

I know that she was/is very sick. And I do believe that she loves us, but can't face her demons. However, as an adult and a parent, I can't be HER victim any longer. I have chosen to not have contact with her. But her birthday is approaching and I feel like a child again. Very nervous and shamed. (She would become very mean and angry if we didn't acknowledge Mother's Day Birthdays etc. even as very young children. manipulation is her craft) In truth, I have never felt secure in myself but with years of therapy I now know better. 

I don't expect her to change the past, but try and make the future better. When she refused rehab or any therapy that's when I broke away.. She can live her life now, but I wouldn't condone her lifestyle.

I would see small glimpses of the person she could be, big hearted, smart and funny. That's how I'll choose to remember her. Being estranged to me doesn't mean that you don't care for them. (After all, they are our parents) But it means that I will love you from afar and give myself a chance to love ME. To let myself be happy and free to be the parent that I always wanted.

I'll always have that small child in me reaching out for her mommy; that won't change I'm sure. All I can do is acknowledge that and be the best mommy I can be.

All my love to you guys out there for being so very brave. Sometimes the hardest choice to make is choosing to be happy and healthy. I hope all of you find your corner happiness, you are WORTH it!

January 24, 2014
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To SSAZ,

I just read your post this morning and I am feeling the same way at the moment.  I am in my 30's and haven't spoken to my dad for 10 months.  I have decided I no longer want a relationship with him because I believe in the end this will make me happier so I am taking charge of my own happiness.  Although there are so many wonderful things in my life, there is a little sadness hanging over me as well.  I, too did not imagine my adult life this way; without one parent.  The sadness is for my unhappy childhood, my troubled relationship with my dad, the fact that I wrote an extremely open and heartfelt letter two months ago explaining exactly why I have refused contact with him/how he has hurt me, his complete lack of response to my letter and how utterly disappointed I am in his lack of ownership of his actions.  How many ways can I count my disappointment?  I have many other very supportive individuals in my life that have been wonderful and I hope you do, too.  Please continue to make choices in your life to make yourself happy and remind yourself that you do not have to continue a relationship with anyone (not your parents, family, friends, etc) purely out of feelings of obligation.

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I am a 40 year old single, male who has been estranged from his parents for about a year and a half.  Lately I've been feeling like I wished I liked them enough to have limited contact, but every time I consider such a scenario, I'm reminded of why I broke things off in the first place.  It's almost a bit of a surprise to me - like "wow - I really AM unhappy when I'm with them and/or other family members."  I don't want to feel this way about them, but I do and when I sit and think about it for even just a minute, all the reasons why I have cut ties, come flooding back.  For all the happiness I've had in the last year and a half, there always seems to be a bit of sadness hanging over my heart.  Can't quite put my finger on it... maybe it's just that this is not how I imagined my adult life to be... estranged from my parents and all.  The rest of my life is pretty good actually.  Anyway, it's nice to have a sense of solidarity with others in my situation... 

 

January 23, 2014
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I have been estranged from my parents for over ~10 years now and they know it but refuse to learn to fix it. I grew up in India where they believe in choices in past lives influencing the current one.

I became deaf when I was ~5 yrs old and my mom has always called me a variation of "Deaf-dumbass" (in my own language), pinched my ears, pulled my ears, calling our family cursed due to her/mine/my dad's bad deeds for having a deaf kid + her losing her voice due to a throat cancer operation (the curses picked up after operation), tried to hide me from people (including kicking me out of the home when her boss visited). Yet at the same time she pushed me to do well in school/career so that she can be proud about me just like other parents. Yes, family rivalry/competition, abuse, motivation and support all rolled together. 

 

My dad was not involved in rearing much but he usually tried to make sure I understood people and just provide support. They took me to temples, doctors etc to try to cure me (i.e. make me hearing). 

 

When I finally got a chance to come to USA the last words I heard from my mom was - "You are our investment, don't mess it up". My dad was worried I would not be able to survive alone and tried to get others to "take care of me". 

 

Once I got to US and saw how much better deaf kids were treated here (and India as well - my mom is an aberration) - I realized I was abused. When I raised the topic I was told by mom - you are overemotional, sorry okay move on, you are mistaken, grow up, sigh!

 

Both parents pushed me to marry quickly - I could have withstood it but eventually tired of their insistence and married my gf (and now separated from a wonderful person who is not a good fit).

I have been sending money from my savings to India semi-regularly to support them. Lately they had a hard time with their business (throwing good money after bad) and now even my dad is looking for monetary support and won't talk to me after his patriarchal behavior during his last visit (demanding respect as an elder but not giving respect).

 

Lately they have been asking more and more money while at the same time asking to visit me - which means I have to drive them around, feed them, pay for their tickets/gifts, show them everything (or I get complaints about how mom is bored) and how other relatives are able to see everything (hint - they travel independently and take care of grandkids unlike my situation).

 

So to sum up.

Mom fucked up raising a deaf kid and now refuses to admit her mistakes or says move on/forget it.

 

Dad demands respect without giving any respect and demands to be heard - same problem with others in India as well.

 

Son - thankful for parental support/pushes. But guilty about not expressing it enough and too stressful to even talk to them on chat. so send small amounts in the hope it is not misused by brother, dad/mom in stupid business ventures where they won't share details. 

sigh! done!

January 20, 2014
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My mother was negligent with food, hygiene, medical care, and daily care as well as emotionally and psychologically abusive. She played "games" with lit cigarettes which involved making me hold still while she held the lit cigarette closer and closer to my skin until I flinched or she burned me. She frequently made me stay in my room not let me out, as well as stripping my clothing off and laying on my to "spank" me - this until I was a young teen. She was abusive in other ways, which I won't go into here.

As an adult, she brow-beat me, mocked me, taunted me, physically abused me - grabbing my arm, shoving me, grabbing my face and digging her nails into my skin. She would rage at me, even in front of my children. She monopolized every visit and conversation, and expected hours per day, many days per week, of this type of "attention".

She frequently created big Drama Events through out my life - often when she lost a job, or was having boyfriend problems, and would confront me with a laundry list of things I wasn't doing for her. (My dad died when I was a child. She had boyfriends and several husbands after that.) She'd shout and call me names - often in front of my husband and children. She'd humiliate me until I apologized for anything and everything, sobbing and crying. Then she'd punish me by not speaking me for weeks, until I called and begged her to talk to me again. Only then would she graciously take me back, but I had to act properly humiliated toward her from then on. 

We all just figured "that's the way she was". She had told me how vastly superior she was. How she was superior to other people, other women, other mothers, other families. She told me she "lived for" her children and grandchildren. So, even though the facts didn't match the lie, I believed her. I excused every one of her behaviors, and came to believe I asked for it. I deserved it. She had told me so many times how I asked for it.

One year, when my children were teens and in college, I asked if I could have a holiday dinner at my house. She was so angry at this (all the holidays were at her house) that she grounded us from that holiday AND the next, and would not let us attend a family holiday until I was prepared to do it her way and never ask to have it my way again.

She told so many lies, and expected me to back her up. I did this for years until reading about Personality Disorders 3 years ago.

It was like a lightbulb going on. It explained everything. I read about the Borderline Mother and was stunned at the description of the Witch Mother. I asked my (now) adult children and also my husband to read the description. They all had seen my mother's behavior over the years, and were stunned at how "textbook" her behavior had been.

With the help of a support group, I tried one boundary with my mother. I told her I couldn't do what she asked right now, but could visit her later in the week, on a day that was good for everyone. She flipped out and said she would not have a relationship like that with me. She said she was THE MOTHER and didn't have to make appointments with the likes of ME. She said she would not have a relationship with me unless I was on the same page with her and give her "the attention and treatment" she "deserved and had come to expect" from me, and she never spoke to me again. 

I admit, I did nothing. I didn't try to contact her. I didn't want to, frankly. I was tired of the abuse. I already felt like I had never truly had a mother, so I didn't feel like I was losing anything. All I was losing was the abuse, and it was such a relief to stop the abuse. 

That was almost three years ago, and my mother hasn't tried to contact me in any way. So, I imagine she doesn't really want a relationship with me, either. I assume she never did, not unless it was a relationship completely under her control and I was willing to be the scapegoat/doormat. I'm not willing to do that anymore. 

So... that's why I'm an adult who is estranged from her mother. 

January 19, 2014
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From the age of twelve through to sixteen I was passed from parent to parent over and over again, living with one parent and not seeing the other parent at all. My Dad was working off-shore and had online relationships, who he would visit on his time off, so I would never see him. My mum, was an alcoholic who told me I had cost her her youth and she was now getting it back and went out all the time while I babysat her drinking buddy's kids. At the age of sixteen, I had enough and went to live with a friend and her family. Neither of my parents contacted me, eventually three years later I contacted them. My Dad had moved to Australia and had been there for two years with his new wife. My Mum was still a severe alcoholic and would force me to drink with her every visit, then she would shout and get aggressive.  I emailed my Dad in Australia and I got a response every 6 months despite checking every day. Neither parent seemed to think it was a big deal that we spent three years apart or were delighted to have me back. I have repeated this process of coming out of their lives and going back in for ten years. I am now twenty six. Neither of my parents have ever contacted me. I have always been the one to chase them. I am now done. I have a wonderful family of my own and just want a happy family life, not creating the same cycle. I also do not have contact with the people who took me in at sixteen, that also went horrible and my partner has no contact with his family. We are alone, just us and our two beautiful children. He is much more emotionally stable than me but I am trying to let go as the people I was born to, unfortunately are not like the ones in the films. I unfortunately was born to people who do not have the same family values as I do, they just have a pile of issues and a desire to suit themselves. I seem to have the desire to sort it all out....but I can't ruin my life and therefore keep the cycle going. 

January 12, 2014
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I will say, as far as this forum goes, it has helped me this past week. But the estranged parents who are posting on here are not helping any of us.

That comment was not intended for all of the parents who have posted here. Sorry about that.

January 12, 2014
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I recently became estranged...again...from my father and stepmother at my request. He did not raise me (lived two states away, did not pay child support, did not attend my HS or college graduation, did not attend my wedding), although I did visit every summer by court order. He did and does love me, which is why I always tried to maintain somewhat of a relationship.

He battles paranoia and addiction. Unfortunately, his illness has him blaming everyone but himself for his problems, including me. That's been my whole life...a difficult thing to hear as a 10 or 12 year old kid. 

When I became a mother, I kept in contact but kept a distance. I think it was my instinct to protect my kids from his passive abusive communication. He is a good person whose paranoia can make him say extremely mean things.

Several months ago, he sent me a couple of really toxic texts and emails. At that point I made my self clear: do not contact me again. Lose my number. I told him that I love and forgive him. I will forgive him a thousand times over. But I will not be in contact with someone who acts like that. I live a drama-free life, probably to a fault, and that's how I plan to keep it.

Here is where I am at fault and I will acknowledge it: I never had the guts to say what should've been said so many years ago. I didn't want to hurt his feelings. I also knew he would never accept what I had to say because his reality is different from others'. I still should have made myself clear way back when and I feel bad that I didn't.

Last week he emailed me asking to get together. This time I was blunt. All these years of beating around the bush was apparently over. I will say that I was not hateful at all. Just honest. And by the way, I only skimmed the surface of what I'd really like to say. But I'm not a hateful person and just don't want to do that to him.

I'm now being called evil and a liar. I'm pretty sure they have all their friends and fellow church members praying for his daughter who is just a "horrible person." That's what my stepmother called me.

All I have wanted is to be left alone. I have said it until I'm blue in the face: I love him. I forgive him. But I'm not going back to the stove that has burned me so many times. I deserve to not be called out of the blue to be told mean things. I deserve to not be called a horrible person. I have never called them names and I never will.

Not sure what the point of my post is here, other than to get it off my chest.

I will say, as far as this forum goes, it has helped me this past week. But the estranged parents who are posting on here are not helping any of us.

January 11, 2014
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Hi Kate,

It was unexpected to have a reply, thank you for your supportive words.  I read your post about your husband, and it really sounds like we have a similar experience.  Time spent with my parents has always directly impacted my self harm and eating patterns.  I am ever so much better in these areas since leaving my family.  After about six months of feeling "safe" from them, I was surprised when I began to feel what was underneath the childish hope I always held onto that things would get better and they would be there for me someday.  What was underneath that hope was the horror of having been left in danger for so long, and also deep psychological pain that left me screaming into a pillow.  After that came out I began extricating myself from other abusive relationships in my life, and my life now is quite centered and healthy.  I truly have compassion for you on your journey to support him.

 

 

 

 

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