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- I can't even talk about estrangement.
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By: D.J. - 38 minutes ago - Anger and Pain
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By: Hurt Parent - 2 hours ago - Lost Husband and my sons walked away
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By: Nancy - 4 hours ago - my 22 yr old son has refused to talk to me for 2 years
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By: Nancy - 5 hours ago
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8:05 pm
My exhusband was able to get custody of our 2 sons 12 years ago when they were just 5 and 14. He didn't want them, just didn'twant to pay child support and wanted the empathy of women who he allowed to believe that I had left him and my children for another man. I have never said a bad thing about their father to them and people who know the real story have told me for years that they will see through their dad's lies. Well my 26 year old won't speak to me, will walk right past me when he see's me without even saying hello. My youngest will speak to me but does not inform me when he has baseball/basketball games, school events etc. I have developed a network of mothers to keepme informed of important happenings at school. I finally after grieving for 12 years and being hospitalized twice for depression have decidied enough is enough. I removed all pictures and keepsakes that reminded me on a daily basis that I am not welcome in their lives. I finally wrote an 18 page letter to my oldest son trying to explain my side of all that had happened so that I would know I had tried everything possible to make things right between us. No response. It has been very freeing to finally let them go. I doubt that the pain will ever go away completely but I am now able to move forward with my life for the first time in 12 years and not live for the maybe some day they will forgive me. I am making plans for myself now for the first time that allow happiness into my life. Should either of them ever want to come back into my life, I'll cross that bridge if it happens but can no longer put my dreams and future there. I pray that all of us in this position will find a way to move on with our lives and love our selves enough to stop punishing ourselves daily for that which we have no control. Good luck
2:54 pm
Lisa,
I totally agree with you – it is a parents job to protect their children from abuse – not the other way around. Unfortunately, you are passing judgement, without knowing the facts. We can not go into every detail in this forum; and as a victims of domestic abuse, we do not need others trying to put us down. You need to educate yourself about abusers and the tactics they use to manipulate and control others. To set you straight: I contacted the police immediately after my daughter told me she was sexually abused, and the charges were 'founded' against him. He was court ordered not to have contact with her for 3 mo's; however, the legal system (1985) did not do much else to protect her. I had to release her back to every other week-end visitation with him. I took her to counselling for over two years; however, he swore, "If it's the last thing I do, I will turn her against you for leaving me".
Now, as far as our poor son. I did everything possible to help him, but after I divorced my ex, he told our son he never wanted him, he hates him, he wishes he was dead, ect. I took him to couselling, he changed schools, etc., and because I always loved and supported him, he told me what a wonderful mother I was, thanked me for always taking his side, and that he loved me.
I have no regrets or guilt over not doing enough to help or protect my children. My adult daughter was turned against me, little by little, year after year, by a rotten, abusive, alcoholic man. Check out 'stockholm syndrome' to understand their relationship; unfortunately, we can not change the way someone else thinks.
Now, does this sound like a 'rotten' mother to you! We are here to help each other – not to put each other down! My doctor is the one who told me: "You must distance yourself from your daughter. You have tried to convince her to get counselling, but she refuses. She is abusing you mentally, emotionally and financially. You are ruining your health – you must let her go."
I was depressed for months over her, and now I have found the strength to go on. I want to help others who are suffering, to realize we can go on and be happy again – regardless of the situation. So if you have nothing positive to say – please don't say anything…..
9:20 am
Dear Doreen,
I understand the heartache and pain of 'losing' your two children. My abusive alcoholic ex used our two children as a weapon 'to get to me' also. He was able to get our teenage son on his side for several years, but in his early 20's he no longer wanted anything to do with his father – then his father turned on him, like he turned on me. Unfortunately, he became very depressed over his father's lack of love and verbal and physical abuse. He took his own life at the age of 24.
Our daughter was sexually abused by him while in elementary school, but tried to stay neutral until around the age of 30, when he was able to turn her against me. She became verbally and emotionally abusive to me and defended him! So much so, that I had to distance myself and 'let her go' the end of 2010. I had tried everything to change the way she thought, but that doesn't work. I was extremely depressed for several months – holidays are especially bad.
I realize that my ex is behind all this, and by me being depressed and driving myself crazy trying to change her, wasn't helping me – just ruining my health and my peace and happiness. With the support of a few wonderful friends, I realized I can't change anyone but myself. I read many different articles on the internet on "how to let go" and slowly my depression lifted. I keep busy working outdoors, taking walks, keeping in touch with friends I met at a support group for abused women, and volunteering at a local hospital.
All the talking in the world won't change the way they think. Now, almost eight months later, I can say 'I am happy again'. Don't get me wrong, there are days I am down, again, thinking about her, but they don't last long – thank goodness. Hopefully, you will be able to move past this, and say you are happy again too. Life is too short to let anyone else ruin it. We can stay positive!
7:26 pm
My teenage, 15 & 17, sons left to live with their father last year. I have been sick every since. I can't find any peace and when I do find something that brings me some happiness, I feel guilty. I try to talk to my kids, but they seem to go thru the motions. They spew the same lies that their father has always spread, about me, drugs, women, etc. They don't want to be in the middle, but when they say that to me they might as well be telling me that they want me out of the picture.
This man abused me for 9 years. He never wanted children, He uses drugs. Is, at least, verbally abusive to his current wife. He boasts about telling my oldest son that he can hit him so hard that "if" he gets up he won't ever want to get hit again. When I try to talk to them, they deny, argue, blame me, lie to me, cover for him. I am so desperate. My life ended last year I can't seem to get it together. I want them away from their father as badly today as I did in 1998 when I left him. I feel like they chose him inspite of me, but now they want to try to convince me of the same lies and torture that he put me through all of those years. My heart hurts so badly I can't put it to words. Their father is still abusing me the worst thing is that he is using my kids to try to convince me of his lies. I miss them so much.
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